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Friday, December 5, 2008

Meeting at last!

Dear Residents,

The meeting between the complainants and the residents finally got off the ground this afternoon at 3 pm in MPSJ. As the notification was given at the last moment, most of you were not aware of the meeting. Anyway, it would have been futile too as the officials of MPSJ initially did not allow any of the residents to go in until YB Hannah Yeoh intervened.



This was at the entrance before the meeting started. She has requested that the residents be allowed in but as observers to which the officer then agreed.

There were about 30+ residents who came and a few of us spoke on behalf of the residents of USJ 11/3. Bakri, our secretary, myself, Salleh and K.L. Wong.

The complainants who came were Giblet (sorry - just do not know how to spell his name), Mr. Kamariah (think it's the husband), one Indian chap (don't know which area he is from), Mrs. Lim (from 11/4), Chester and a speckie man from 11/3A.

The chairman was Timbalan YDP while several MPSJ officers and 2 MPSJ councillors were present. Sargeant Segaran from USJ 8 police station was present as well.

The meeting started about 3:20 pm as one of the councillor was late (the one who had something to do with the postponement the last time). The chairman then opened the meeting and spoke to all about the law governing gated and guarded and also the by-laws supporting such initiative.

And under the law, it clearly states that such barricades are indeed unlawful which all of us already knew. However, with the local council's permission, this G&G could still be done. He then invited the complainants to speak.

Giblet was the first person to talk about his loss of business. He attributed it to the closing of USJ 11/3K as he claimed it was a main road. He then said that with the opening of the entrance at Chatters, it was not good enough as cars are still restricted in moving in and out (I wonder if he was awake lah when he made that statement?).

The chairman then asked him about the reasons behind his fall in business - could it be that it was it due to the slowdown in the general economic condition rather than the closure of the entrances, to which he replied, it was already bad enough for him but we have apparently added "salt to his wound". Gee, I hope it was painful!

Fact of the matter is, there are 2 major entrances totally unhindered into the shop areas. Never mind, the fact that we have also opened one near Chatters (which by the way is costing us RM2,000 monthly) just to let their customers have easy access.

Anyway, as K.L. Wong has mentioned, if your food is so gloriously delicious and it is reasonably priced, you can have a thousand barricades and people will still flock to your makan place. So, get real lah, Giblet! So Dineout or Die-out now? It does not matter anyway, as the residents here are no longer patronizing your outlet!

Then it was Mr. Kamariah's turn. (Complainant is Kamariah but somehow he does not look like a Kamariah!). He was complaining about taking his children to school and could not access the entrance along USJ 11/3K.

Huh? What talking - you speaking lah, uncle?

By the way, do you all know that he actually operates and run a transportation business ferrying children to school? What on earth is this man talking about when he said he was ferrying his own children to school? As far as I am concerned, he seemed to be just looking after his own busniess interest!

He also complained about people knocking into the barrier when they are walking and also the barricades have somehow prevented people from jogging!

Aiyoh, the agony of listening to this man! Obviously I was not the only one cringing as I am sure the 30+ residents present must also have the same thoughts on their minds at that time.

Bottom line - do not want to pay but make noise anyway. What type of neighbour is this? SUPER-CHEAP-SKATE!





Then, Mrs Lim from USJ 11/4 - complained about our guards not being polite and all. Hey, Mrs Lim, they got a job to do lah! They have been told to screen everyone who does not have a sticker.

She insisted that the shortcut on USJ 11/3K was important to her and that she has kids that she wants to ferry through our area. She now wants the committee to issue her a pass so that the guards do not have to screen her and that she can drive freely through.

But she does have choices - go right around the area or be screened. If we were to deal with this issue by issuing a pass to everyone from outside our area who have similar complains, can you then imagine what would happen to the committee members? We will become some sort of full time JPJ officers lah!!

Mrs. Lim. do us a favour, either you go right around or be screened. In fact, better you go right around. It will save us a lot of problems. We can live "happily ever after..." without getting on each other's nerves.

Then a speckie resident from USJ 11/3A started to relate his complaint to Timbalan YDP (did not get his name - lucky for him, otherwise he will be famous here!). He lamented the fact that he has so many cars and that as a result he had problems coming in and out as the cars he owned did not have the proper sticker on it. (Wah liao eh! Must be damn rich man lah got so many cars but want more free sticker - what do you call such people?!!).

And the fact that he is quite mad as he only got one sticker from the committee (free some more!). And that his wife's car and his other cars got no sticker and that the guards have been screening him and how unfair we have been towards him. "How come the committee only gave me one sticker?", he asked and demanded loudly.

To which, the chairman told him, this was not the forum to resolve the issue that he had raised. Well, you know what Mr. Speckie resident from USJ 11/3A with one sticker? We should in fact take that one sticker BACK from you!

If you want more then just suscribe lah. When you do that, you automatically get 3 free stickers (three, tiga, 'sam chek', 'sah eh' - just in case you don't understand).

Sir, you are not only a cheapskate but also a selfish free loader.

Bakri then got to speak and he explained about how when we started we did not know about the problems that will crop up at the shops area but when it did, we immediately tried to resolve it.

There were attempts, he explained to resolve the problems but the resolution came to a nought when we wanted Giblet (still cannot spell the name right!) to sign off on the agreement which we have have put together after discussions with him and some other shop operators.

He did not want to discuss with us to resolve the problems but instead he went to the press. Utusan, Nanyang Siang Pau, Harian Metro, The Star and also involved politicians from MCA, etc, etc and made it into one big issue.

So what is the beef, Giblet? We did listen, we did try to come to a compromise. Who was the problematic one here then, huh?

I then got to speak. I had asked a question to the residents who had complained. I wondered if they are sleeping more soundly these days? And if they are, instead of complaining, should they not thank us?

I then appealed to MPSJ to leave the G&G as it is, as it had done a lot of good in reducing the crime rate in our area. Also, we had so much support from the residents in the area to get this off the ground. It had not been easy and so we would like to keep the momentum going. Besides, the residents here are feeling much safer and they are closer to each other as a community.

Salleh was the next person who spoke. He told everyone how concerned all the residents were, how many cases of crime he has come across of which his wife was one of them and how much fear everyone had until the committee came along to set up the G&G.

He was very impressed with the committee's genuine and sincere effort in getting all the residents together to fight crime collectively. He feels that this is what Malaysia needs, that is, having the community to come together to work as one united 'family' to which the 30+ residents who were present applauded loudly.

He also informed everyone that the primary reason for setting this G&G was only for security and nothing else which has now become a national issue/problem.

In this respect, even the police are not issuing anymore statistics just so as not to instill fear in people anymore. However, I am not sure if this is the right move. It is as if, sweeping things under the carpet will resolve problems naturally and that it will just go away!

K. L. Wong then spoke next. He mentioned the fact that he had lived in the area for more than 9 years and he knows a lot of residents himself. He then mentioned that of late, because of security, the kindergarten operating in our area actually brought the children out to the playing field to play in the mornings. Something he had not seen in all his years living here.

He also questioned Giblet's rational and motive as he mentioned if his food was fantastic, he would retain his customers anyway, no matter what. He also pointed out that those shops were designed as community shops serving the area and so if his targeted customers were from outside USJ 11/3, he should not then locate his shop here.

Frankly, I think he should just move out and save us the agony!

Next the police gave their views. Sargeant Segaran spoke of the fact that USJ 11 remained the area with the highest crime rate but for our area, that is, USJ 11/3, it has reduced dramatically since we started our G&G.

He said snatch thieves and robbers used USJ 11/3K as a link road and also as an escape route to roam the USJ 11 area freely, hopping from one area to the next via this road to carry out their crimes. In that respect, he thinks the committee together with the residents have done the right thing by manning the entry and exit of USJ 11/3K.

The emphasis here, he said, was to work closely together between the residents, MPSJ and the police to battle crime. And so he says, the police have no objection and supported the committee's move to install barricades at strategic areas and control entry/exits with manned guards even on USJ 11/3K.

Then councillor Ismail Kamal said that he still thinks that alternatives like putting guards at USJ 11/3K is a better bet. He also asked the police for a written statement since they support the resident's move to have this G&G and to have USJ 11/3K closed as he is concerned that some people (who lah brudder?) in the future may question MPSJ about this issue.

I wonder what his interest really is? Even the Timbalan YDP nor any of the officers and representatives from MPSJ raised this issue! Or maybe he is not cut out for the job!

I only have one comment here.

We have had 3 meetings in all with MPSJ on this G&G issue so far. And councillor Ismail Kamal was present, I believe, in at least two of them. In no time at all, during those meetings in which he was present, did he constructively suggest to us on how to make our G&G more effective to help us bring the crime rate down. Or where to set up the barricades or look at why we have had to set up the gates in the manner in which we did due to our limited resources and capabilities.

Instead he has always been focused on how inconvenient our barricades have been to other road users, how inconvenient it has been to the shop operators and that "this barricade should be removed and that gate should not be closed, etc". In other words, reduce our effectiveness in fighting crime. And he is supposed to be our councillor for our area?

I wonder if he really have our interest at heart? I really question his ability to address real problems affecting us as a community. What do you think?

YB Hannah then spoke and told everyone that it is a difficult situation that needed immediate remedy. She also highlighted that while the law does not allow barricades but if the local council allows it then we should be able to retain our G&G.

She felt that it was difficult for us to start this as there are not many people who will come forward and sacrifice the time and effort to do something like what we have done in USJ 11/3. And so, she explained, supporting this is indeed important.

She also highlighted the USJ RA is now studying the implications of G&G and the effectiveness of the guidelines as more and more communities in Subang and USJ are starting to look into this concept to protect themselves from escalating crime.

Timbalan YBP then closed the meeting and thanked everyone for being so civil in their conduct during the meeting. He further mentioned that the decision will be made regarding our status and we will keep us informed. He then thanked everyone for coming and adjourned the meeting.

Well, dear residents. A report on the meeting which has just taken place today.

Now you know who these cheapskates are, living amongst us.

Anyway, never mind. We will be generous and we will continue to provide these cheapskates the security services for free. Let them sleep in peace!

Compliments from us residents who have paid using our hard earned money.

Jeffrey Khoo
Treasurer
11 Trees @ USJ

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

i hope the committee has the names of all the complainants cos if the g&g is dismantled and any harm comes to my family i will bring them to court for infringing on my right to security. even the opening of 11/3k will be worrying as the padang is there and my kids are playing there all the time.can u just imagine what will happen if the roads are opened and a kid is kidnapped? my family was so happy when the g&g was proposed and now there are some selfish people who want to take it away. glad to know who u are at last, jeffrey and thank u.
CT/3D

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr.Kamariah/Mr.Yong, Giblet, Chester and Gay Pin Sing.

We are now living in end year 2008, we are now more knowledgeable and intelligent due to the media and advancement of IT world. You all cannot fool the 11/3 residents with lame(stingy and selfish) excuses.I am sure your parents who wish to brought you up as a decent human being will be disapointed. I am also sure you would not want your children to ask you why you are against the g&g while majority of the residents wanted it, everyone has benefited it since. Please come to your senses and take the initiative to discuss with the commitee and solve the problems, all will be forgotten.

th-chong,3k

Mdm Chan said...

Dear Committee,
I have been following your blog and I am living along USJ11/3A,the complainer of this road is lying and I guess he wants the G7G but do not want to pay.Ch*******e as he is and being a so called Christian. He should be thankful that he is enjoying the security now without paying. He still want to complain. Their house have been burgled before in broad daylight once. Subsequently then he only install an alarm system to his property. This was before the G&G was set up. The reason he gave is he now has an alarm system in his house he do not need the G & G. He do not have any family members but only cats for children.

I agree with the committee if he wants many stickers for his so called many cars which he does not have, he must pay for it.I just do not know what his intention is?

We at USJ11/3 must fight to keep the G&G for our neighbourhood.
Keep on the good job.Thak you.

Regards
Mdm Chan

Anonymous said...

I opined that the remark, "asked the police (officer) for a written statement" is mischievious and personal and not consistent with the Government's effort especially the work of the National Police Department. The police has been striving very very hard to work with the public, getting their cooperation to reduce crime. This has not been an easy task and yet every IGPs have never given up hope to get the public to cooperate. The Rukun Tetatanga patrol is another of its kind which is no longer viable nor effective.

This is for you Mrs Lim, kindly check with your USJ11/4 protem committee what was the consequence on their routine similar to RT beat, after aprehending the robbers and thieves on several occasions. Are their legal issues with the police and the court over yet after being so kind to have indirectly protected you and your children so far? Did you thank them for their effort? Did you help to share the responsibility and chip out some money to help them to repair their cars damaged in those incidences? Did you know in those incidences your beloved committee members being hurt physically, what more about their heartache living with you as their neighbor? See how graceful these decent kind people are to you and those who obstructed them in your very own phase USJ11/4 to put up the G&G? Now you start laying a hand into USJ11/3, other people's home just for your convenience! You understand simple English isn't it, Dear Mrs Lim?

One more for you Mrs Lim, I have my relatives staying in USJ11/4 and wanted so much (dying for) the G&G asap because they were being hurt before. They too have the little "your so-called inconvenience" you claim when they came over to USJ11/3 for the same purpose (or more purposes) as you but instead they were and are still so envy what we have, and felt so sad as to when USJ11/4 will be able to put up theirs. Ask around and share your predicament see if you are a kind or reasonable person or not. Go home, and support your protemp committee to protect your family, your family will love you dearly being so caring. Do not join those complainants and being used by them, as they may have other agenda especially the business people. Apologise to MPSJ/USJ11/3 for the mistake made and withdraw your complaint. Have a few nice words for us, I think we still welcome you and like you as a good USJ resident. You are a decent person and good mother.

Anonymous said...

Mr Speckie USJ11/3A indeed wants the G&G and understood entirely how they have benefited without question. He is intelligent arithmatically. He must have bragged to himself how smart he was, to have taken full advantage of his neighbors. He must be very happy staying firm not to subscribe to the security system but use it for free, defended it a strategic cost saving idea under the guise of "I didn't support in the first place nor request for the service anyway ".

On the contrary, what I see he had gone to schools for the wrong reason. He was angry and raised his voice to "intimidate", the school did not educate him to "bully" his way just because he had a few cents extra instead learn to live with people around him. His conscience betrayed his trait of greed, he knows the significance of G&G security but just wants it for free since the majority has paid for it.

No doubt in monetary sense you do have a cost saving idea, but no, it is a cost saving parasite on others effort. Who does this? Yes, beggars do that for alms! Such intelligence is construed as craftiness and cunning, if you have not completed your education yet. Learn to factor in principles, ethics and rationale. If you still do not comprehend kindly go and share with your parents intrinsically, how have you fare as a person of good nature and character?

Do you know how should you feel, when others pay willfully what is due and you didn't? Yes, smaller. Don’t blame others who did, look down on you! If I ever got a chance to meet you face-to-face, I will still smile to you but at the back of my mind, I say, "it's alright young boy you took advantage of your neighbors now, you will grow up and learn one day". Get it?

The G&G subscription is not much compare to losses you have already experienced and the home security you put up. Think of it when you get hurt physically without the G&G as the pre-emptive, what can your home security do other than recording the uneventful happening especially you have a woman at home and they outnumbered you? How many times recorded evidence were not helpful?

You have a few cars; you must be OKB, Orang Kaya Baru. You should learn to behave like a rich man and noble with generosity. Share and contribute like others, you must be rich and live a rich man's life, don’t make your money and live a beggar's life otherwise wasted. Live to be likened by your neighbors, be kind and friendly to all of them, help them where ever possible - nobility. You should be much happier then. Try it.

Anonymous said...

Mr Kamariah, mishap does not choose time, when to happen be it kidnap or robbery. The children waiting for your transport’s arrival every morning are seeking safety for themselves and their parents; and you seek to pick up the children safely.

The little detour to exchange for safety is only causing you a little inconvenience and moves you off your comfort zone for the betterment of all including you, your family and good neighboring friends.

Mr Kamariah imagine this scenario. If ever your complaint is validated by MPSJ and came through and consequently, unluckily a mishap does happen to any one of the children while waiting for your transport, do you know you will not be able to erase today's record you have selfishly laid down? It is your little interest that has endangered the lovely children's life. You will have to kneel in front of their parents for the rest of your life to understand safety after that.

I used to see a night jogger quite often in USJ11/3, jogging late in the night safely because of the security, cheerfully chatting with the committee members thanking them for the effort. Did you say anything graceful and appreciative to the committee who worked so hard to put them in place for your sake too, and I suppose you did not pay up. Don't fool the paid residents, you try to use lame excuses as payment in kind in exchange for a 'receipt'!

You must also be a staunch believer in education and that is why you choose to ferry children to schools including yours, as your profession. You would not have sent your children to school if you have not. Love the children sincerely and unconditionally, not just words only. Words are cheap. Give them your golden heart the protection that they needed so that they can grow up healthily and safely which is within your means conveniently.

Say hello to the dutiful guards and be grateful to them for taking care of you throughout your stay in USJ11/3 from now on. Pray for their health and safety too. They worked under the hot sun and rains. Be careful don't knock the barriers with your vehicle just because you disagree with the G&G for selfish reason. All the more walk properly, you are mobile and make of living materials not those barriers they are dead wood. Be careful there are lamp posts and drains everywhere.

Don't mix with some bad hats and see from the proper perspective maturely why the majority are supporting the G&G and are paying up gracefully without a glitch. It is expenditure to them too but they are intelligently accepting it as security investment, an insurance against mishap.